Hi John, I have had quite a "learning experience" with my Mac SE and thought yo u might have or start a database for 'little known facts'. I discovered the pro blem in the process of getting Savant to run with SoftKiss and the Tigertronics BayPak modem. The little known fact about the SE is that Pin 7 of the modem ser ial port can be sensitive to noise even though you don't use it. Per SoftKiss i nstructions I tied Pin 7 to the Pin 4 ground. Because I made this connection at the db25 connector end of the cable to the modem it picked up noise and resulte d in the Mac SE running very, very slowly and caused Savant to transmit without any data...just flag fields!! Fix is to leave Pin 7 unconnected or to tie it to either a + or - logic level voltage. Pin 7 on the Mac Plus does not have this function(no connection) so doesn't have the same problem as the SE. On the SE Pi n 7 is called "Data Carrier Detect/Clock Input". Savant is a great packet progra m...... 73, Bob KD6ORG